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From: LP12
POtential next German leader, Ulrich Siegmund



Looks the part in this picture.

Headline writer going to town and covering all bases!

"To many voters alarmed by mass migration, this man is a charismatic messiah. He's also a pro-Russian on the verge of becoming the first far-Right nationalist to run a state government since the Nazis... So is this the most dangerous man in Germany?"

Designed of course to get tools and puppets of Chosen People in a tissy of left wing delirium. He's anti-war AND anti-rape!! It's not possible!! He's a fascist!!! #bekind


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The state capital of Magdeburg – eight miles from this AfD campaign event – was the scene of a terrible terror attack two years ago when a Saudi refugee drove a car into a Christmas market, killing six and injuring 299 people.

The murderer was not an Islamist, however, but a psychiatrist helping people to flee religious persecution. Many of its supporters link migration with crime. 'I feel unsafe as a woman,' said Guettler.

'Since 2016 you get catcalls, you get looked at, you even get touched. Yes, that was my first memory of immigration in 2016. It felt so alienating.'

Peter Pavelzeck, 68, a retired mechanic, was wearing a shirt emblazoned with the flag of the former East Germany. He explained how he served as a young man in the Communist regime's army – then told me he felt the big issue was peace and the need to restore relations with Russia. He quoted a saying attributed to Germany's 19th-century leader Otto von Bismarck that for peace to exist in Europe, the Russian Tsar must be at the table. 'That's how I see it with Vladimir Putin – he should not be excluded,' said the pensioner.

Such attitudes alarm many mainstream politicians as their country rapidly rearms, especially after incidents such as the drone that was found heavily laden with explosives next to a Ukrainian cargo plane earlier this month at the airport in nearby Leipzig.

The AfD wants Germany to lift sanctions on Russia, restore Russian energy links and end the arms flow to Ukraine – a move that would severely wound Kyiv since Berlin has become its biggest supplier of weapons. Its Saxony-Anhalt platform seeks to restore Russian-language lessons in schools. The party's deputy leader, an ideologue reportedly lined up to be education minister, has defended Putin's invasion of Ukraine and travelled to Russia to wave the AfD flag in protest against Western values.

No wonder Moscow's propaganda and disinformation machine is inflaming the AfD cause – especially given that Siegmund has said he might abolish the state intelligence agency.

Since Germany's 16 states run their own police and local intelligence services – a post-Nazi safeguard designed to thwart another Gestapo – there are concerns the AfD might prevent Nato troops crossing its terrain in a war or that the party could leak critical information.

Roderich Kiesewetter, an MP with the ruling Christian Democratic Union party and former army colonel, said the federal government was discussing how to get around this in the event of a crisis and override a state's jurisdiction if the AfD took actions such as, for example, blocking railways to stop the transport of Nato troops. 'In the case of a state of emergency or the Bundestag invoking of zustimmungsfall [emergency crisis laws] to guard against threats, federal police could then take over certain responsibilities. This is possible. It has never been exercised or practised but the Interior Ministry is now thinking about it,' he said.

'The AfD is offering to repeat the historic mistakes of the past... they tend to accept Russia as a leading power while regarding France, Britain and even the United States as decadent powers.'

Behind the rise of the AfD lies the shadow of German reunification in 1990. There was massive disruption across the former East German regions after much of its industry collapsed along with the Communist regime, leading to the perception that the region had been neglected by a political establishment largely rooted in the West.

Saxony-Anhalt, which was formerly in East Germany, has lost a quarter of its population since reunification – and those who left to build new lives in the West were often young, well-educated and female. Now the state is the nation's oldest demographically – and it has the biggest gender imbalance among 18 to 29-year-olds, with 121 young men for every 100 young women. 'Reunification was more of a takeover by the West. This led to the feeling of being treated as second-class citizens. That feeling has lasted until today. Interestingly, it's been passed down through the generations,' said Kerstin Volkl, a political scientist at Martin Luther University in Halle who studies AfD voters.

Volkl believes this mood of resentment fuels extremism. She showed me data suggesting that support for dictatorship and for 'trivialisation' of Nazi-era crimes are strongest in this state. More than one in ten voters approve of the idea of dictatorship.

'The AfD has become increasingly radicalised, particularly in Saxony-Anhalt,' she said. 'Ulrich Siegmund is their friendly face. He's extremely good rhetorically. He's charismatic. He's the figurehead for the AfD. The hardliners are in the background.'

The prospect of this ultra-nationalist party taking power – overseeing universities and schools along with arts, police and public broadcasting – scares many voters in the state that I met last week.

Speaking to two elderly women eating ice creams on a bench in Magdeburg, I asked for their views on the AfD. One shot back that she wants the party eliminated.

'Weg, weg [Gone, gone],' said Karen, 75, with an angry wave of her hand. 'They have Nazis in their ranks and that is not acceptable at all. We have had all that before. History is repeating itself.'

Even some people who worry about immigration levels admitted to alarm. 'I would not vote for the AfD out of a deep-rooted sense of fear,' said Birgit, 55, a physiotherapist.

'You don't know how they will turn out but there is a fear they will be far too radical. When it comes to policy on migration, foreigners who have built lives here may be forced to leave. But at the same time, there is too much migration. So you feel torn between two extremes.'

Others worry their own lives may be uprooted. 'My father is from Russia. I grew up here, this is my home, but in their eyes I am seen as different,' said Leon Sokolov, 20, an aerospace engineering student. 'They just want to make lives more difficult for people with a migration background. Maybe in the end it will be fine. They cannot do that much at state level to throw people out. But if they won nationally, there would be a lot more problems since economically they want to exit the EU and remigrate people.'

Mohammed, 24, an asylum seeker from Iran, is leaving for the west of the country next month. 'It is because of the situation here,' he said. 'There are many good things in Germany – I can find a job, I can study, transport is good – but sometimes in Saxony-Anhalt, bad things happen.'

Like others I spoke to, he told of suffering racist abuse in shops and trams.

A German-born medical student, whose parents are from Nigeria, said he had faced a lot of hostility, including being called the N-word in hospital and when using public transport. 'When it happens to me now I just laugh,' said David Ojo, 24. 'The problem is the AfD normalises hostility.

'It legitimises the ideology that immigrants are the problem. I worry a lot about that. You go to the hospital here and the hospital does not work without immigrants at every level.'

Yet the discontent felt by many Germans runs far deeper than just over migration. A study by the State Agency for Political Education – a national body for the promotion of democracy – found migration ranks first among concerns for AfD supporters but only fifth for all voters after schools, jobs, cost of living and transport.

'People want something different without necessarily knowing exactly what they want to be different,' said the director Maik Reichel, a former Social Democratic MP. 'If you ask them what should change, they say 'everything.'

He argues that – as in the 1930s – people have lost a belief in aufsteigsvarsprechen, the traditional promise that the next generation will be better off. So they are falling for 'messianic figures' promising drastic change for the nation and a sense of hope.

Some experts suggest the AfD needs to be tested by a period of being in power, although Reichel fears they could make huge changes to the arts, education and society over five years in government.

'Who wants to be the guinea pig in that situation?' he asked plaintively.

The voters in this state may soon answer his question if they hand power to the AfD.

 Current Thread  Author  Time 
POtential next German leader, Ulrich Siegmund ...[more]
 LP12  12:49:29 
>> "The murderer was not an Islamist, however, but a psychiatrist helping people to ... [more]
 LP12  12:57:05 
>> 'Gives us Judaism, Christianity, Islam. ROot of all our problems today.'...[more]
 Free Thinking Doggie  13:06:15 
>> Merge them? A new world syncretic religion. Take the best bits of each. In ... [more]
 JonH🍕  13:22:13 
>> There are no best bits.
 Denc 🗡  14:38:31 
>> Nah, just eliminate the Religion of Peace.
 Free Thinking Doggie  13:46:13 
>> Subsume it. The multiple wife system bit has legs.
 JonH🍕  14:09:16 
>> You jest.
 Denc 🗡  15:31:29 
>> THat could work. Take the best of three and make a super religion. ...[more]
 LP12  14:37:11 
>> Get rid of them all. The world would be a much better place.
 Denc 🗡  14:40:43 
>> Like Japan where such religion as there is symbolic, interchangeable ... [more]
 Denc 🗡  14:45:40 
>> Indeed. encourages mental illness & is last refuge of scoundrel
 LP12  14:43:00 
>> If you took a list of all the terror events and killings over the ... [more]
 Free Thinking Doggie  15:10:43 
>> Still a few. The ludicrous war in Northern Island over exactly ... [more]
 Denc 🗡  15:19:50 
>> Northern Ireland was politics though.
 Free Thinking Doggie  15:36:25 
>> Religion. There are no Protestant republicans.
 Denc 🗡  15:49:54 
>> No papery here.
 Denc 🗡  15:53:48 

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